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Discussion in 'General Video Games Discussion' started by Ammy175, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. Ringwraith

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    I feel I must add they did pretty quickly add an update saying multiple alternatives it could be that have been suggested.
    At least, they would've if their technology was cooperating, as it's not actually changed on the site yet, even though it's written and everything.

    It is really hard to unhear certain things though, burn my bread anyone? (Which is never one I got myself).
     
  2. Ammy175

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    The whole point is that the headline says there's a slur, and their "proof" is someone coming up with "lyrics" in the absence of them. The fact that they published it at all (especially only now, instead of when Persona 5 was new) is really fucking stupid.
     
  3. DustyStarr

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    I would like to work at Kotaku.
     
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    Also does anyone remember Lone Prayer from P1PSP?

    "All my buddies came to bring me poooooorrrrrnnnn!"
     
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    If that happens Sony will have no one to blame but themselves

    first it was their stance towards mods on Fallout 4 and Skyrim that pushed PS4 owners to PC and or Xboxone, then it was forced censorship

    They will only lose if they keep this up
     
  6. Cryrobinson

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    I don't think anything would prompt me to buy an XBOX. In all seriousness though, I think Sony really roped everyone in with PS4, I don't think much faith exists for Microsoft.
     
  7. Ringwraith

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    Sony have always been a bit overly controlling I think is the issue.
    Hence why they didn't allow crossplay or free modding, just "approved" ones, and then the sudden extra restrictions on content which are not even consistently enforced.
     
  8. DustyStarr

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    I think the censorship is such a minor issue in comparison to the rest of the anti-consumer practices that Sony is performing recently (blocking Share-Play despite doing it last generation, paywalling online play, removing digital backwards compatibility (PS1/2), promising some form of PS3 BC and not delivering (I don't consider PSNow even worth considering), how they handled mods in Bethesda games, blocking certain services, being arrogant and telling consumers what they want and don't want (saying they don't actually want BC), and more).

    I don't see how missing out on some anime tiddy compares to that. (However I definitely feel for the teams affected by this because how they have handled this has been royally shitty and damaging to small teams bring out these games, but I would just classify this issue as more anti-developer than anti-consumer.)
     
  9. DustyStarr

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    While I think gamers by in large have become MUCH more sheeplike these days, I would not be so sure. The pendulum has been swinging back and forth for almost a decade now. Gen 6, Sony beat Microsoft, Gen 7, Microsoft beat Sony, Gen 8, Sony beat Microsoft.

    If nothing changes things might stay the same, but Sony is in peak position to make a moe so arrogant they will drive their consumers away. And Microsoft has been building up tons of goodwill recently, so they could have an easy time picking up the people leaving sony.

    Not saying this will happen, especially if XBOX is trying to become more of a service, but this has happened before.
     
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  10. Ammy175

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    If "arrogant moe" is "naked animu, but covered up a ridiculous amount" then I'd say they're already doing such a thing. :^)

    I know the second line quoted here was talking more about backwards compatibility than censorship, but it could also apply to censoring animu titty (or anything, for that matter), no?
     
  11. DustyStarr

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    I suppose it could yes.

    I am just trying to downplay how terribly disappointed I am that for so many gamers it was not any of the things that I mentioned in my post but the anime tiddy that was the line in the sand for them. I mean it's good that people are standing up to Sony's arrogance, but when anime tiddy is the main reason people are doing it, especially underaged anime girls as well... when that's the hill PS4 gamers die on, I don't know, I feel like there are wrong priorities and that people are mostly upset because their softcore porn is being censored, and would probably forgive Sony immediately if Sony went back on their censorship practices and accept all of the anti-consumer shit they are doing. I don't want to lump everyone who is angry at the censorship into one camp though which is why I don't want to get too into it, that is just how I feel.

    I also have nothing against censoring underage content specifically, I think it is disgusting and should not be there to begin with.
     
  12. Cryrobinson

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    I would argue that's a small amount of PS4 owners though. And some issues you listed can be directly blamed on Microsoft (such as online play needing subscription). I just think Sony has the better platform, better exclusivity deals, and the whole Japanese market. Like, most Japanese companies don't even prioritize XBOX cause no one in Japan has them. Even the 360, which was massively successful, still didn't see a huge influx of Japanese games. It saw more for sure, but nowhere near the other two.
     
  13. DustyStarr

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    It probably is yeah, just in the nerd communities I happen to be in hear about it a LOT, but I am sure it means nothing to the vast majority of PS4 owners. However, if Sony is pissing off a number of their smaller Japanese developers that could lead to a shift of Japanese devs moving away from Sony, but they would probably go to Nintendo over the XBOX.

    Also, while MS did start paid online as we have it now, I don't think it is fair to give Sony a pass on that. You can't copy someone else's bad behavior and say it's okay because someone else did it. What other issues would you want to blame on MS though?

    Either way, I am just saying that Sony's position right now is not guaranteed to last forever, and they have been knocked down by their own arrogance before and it happening again is entirely possible. I just don't want people thinking "well, Sony has the market now, so I guess we have to accept whatever they do."
     
  14. Chaosblade77

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    I can't see myself buying another Sony or Microsoft console. Nearly everything I have any interest in releases on PC now, I can live without the few games that don't make it.

    But then there's Nintendo...
     
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    Backwards compatibility is more of a technical issue, rather than something they "removed" at least, it was bad enough the technical horrors they had with the classics on PS3.
     
  16. DustyStarr

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    I do not accept that they could not easily create a PS1 emulator for the PS4. And they HAVE PS2 games already playable on the system, so I don't see the excuse why they can't have the PS2 Classics people already paidfor playable as well.

    PS3 is one thing, PS2 and 1 are another.
     
  17. Chaosblade77

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    Assuming they don't go for a mobile CPU again, PS3 emulation should be doable on a game to game basis, but 100% compatibility day one is probably impossible. If RPCS3 has >40% compatibility then a Sony developed emulator should be able to do better.

    But to be honest I'm kind of surprised Sony is opting for any backward compatibility. They seemed to prefer the out with the old approach, why encourage people to play last gen games when they could be buying games for the new console. The Resetera/GAF logic, "why would you play an old, outdated PS4 game when you could be playing a PS5 game???"
     
  18. DustyStarr

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    Probably because there will be next to no original PS5 software to make owning it worth anything so it adds to the library without having to make new games. The first 1.5 years would probably be cross gen games like the 4 anyways, now this allows devs to make cross gen games without having to actually make them.
     
  19. Ringwraith

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    If only it were that simple.
    The PS2 Classics for PS3 had to be much more modified than the old PSOne classics were, so it's hardly surprising they weren't brought forward. (They also mostly tried to do it via streaming and that just didn't work).
    The PS4 uses a much more standardised architecture than any previous PlayStation, so it's vastly different from the way those ran.

    Emulation is also notoriously finicky and some games have extremely weird behaviour for seemingly no reason, which is what I was alluding to when mentioning the PSOne classics were hard enough to get to run properly on a PS3, as some of them were very broken before they managed to fix them, which is why some took so long to show up, if at all.
     
  20. DustyStarr

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    They were brought forward, to an extent. There are PS2 games on the PS4 right now, they just did not put much effort into making more of them. PS4's standardized architecture would also make creating an emulator easier, not harder.

    The PS1 is one of the easiest systems to emulate. The SNES Classic can run them.

    The PS4, being a more powerful, standardized system is much more capable than the PS3 to emulate PS1 and 2 games.

    Yes, it would have taken a little effort, but a company as big and wealthy as Sony can do that, especially when people create awesome, superior emulators for free for their own systems.

    We also all know the REAL reason they axed PS1 and PS2 classics, and that is PSNow.
     

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